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Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

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Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby on tilt on Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:28 am

Having no experience with either one, I'm looking for a little feedback....your personal opinion.

I've done a little research and both talk a good game. But i would like to hear from unbiased first hand users.

which do you prefer...and why?
I'm a newb....so take everything I say with a grain of salt.
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Re: Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby _controlfreak on Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:12 pm

The why's been covered a thousand times already, but you'll find zero people here who like Auto-Tune for anything. Unless you need live pitch correction.
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Re: Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby Blue Bear Sound on Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:32 pm

Actually - I use Autotune for manually fixing the odd problem vocal note here and there.... I started with early versions of Melodyne too, but that was before it was a plug-in, so it was cumbersome to use.... Auto-tune in "auto" mode is absolutely useless.

If you know what you're doing (and when to use it effectively) both work well for rescue ops.... Melodyne certainly has the edge for versatility though (ie, creating harmony lines, etc...)
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Re: Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby Tweak on Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:35 am

I just got Melodyne for the first time, believe it or not, having used Auto-Tune for a long time. Melodyne is impressive.
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Re: Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby ALunarLullaby on Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:29 am

Tweak wrote:I just got Melodyne for the first time, believe it or not, having used Auto-Tune for a long time. Melodyne is impressive.


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Tweak, I thought you have experience with every piece of recording gear known to man!

I use Melodyne and think it's a great software.
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Re: Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby wafare on Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:22 pm

Have any of you guys used Auto-Tune evo yet? If so, do you feel that it's much improved and if so in what ways? I've never used Melodyne because I've been using Auto-Tune since version 3 but I am interested in it. I haven't upgraded to Auto-Tune evo yet so now is the time for me to consider the main alternative. For me, it's been most cost effective to upgrade Auto-Tune and I've developed creative ways to deal with it's shortcomings. I don't use it a lot fortunately but I know how to do what I need to do with it...... 8)
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Re: Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby Weasel9992 on Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:16 am

I'm a Melodyne user here. Like any vocal correction software it takes some experience to be able to apply it really transparently, but I think it sounds fantastic. I don't have the plugin version...I use the rewire version on purpose because it forces me to export the vocal and work it manually. The results, in my experience are **far** better that way. My experience with Auto-Tune is pretty extensive too, and I'm not sure if it's the tuning algorithms or what, but it seems much harder to me to get natural-sounding results from it. It seems to be much more susceptible to artifacts than Melodyne is.

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Re: Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby Multiman on Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:16 pm

one problem I've encountered with the Melodyne plugin in Logic, is that it doesn't seem to respond to tempo changes and will mess up the results. Most of the time I will import the track into the standalone version where there are more options anyway.

The thing that Melodyne has going for it is that its not simply a vocal correction app. It has enormous potential creative uses. In fact I'd say its overkill to just use it for subtle vocal pitch corrections. (again, if you're a Logic user you already have an auto-tune plug built in)
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Re: Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby Weasel9992 on Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:50 am

That's true. I've actually used it to tune bass lines, trumpet lines (player left the first valve slide out so everything using the first valve was flat...F#, Bb, A and C# especially), and a fiddle part. Bass was very easy, the other things were a little harder to get a natural feel on, but it worked.

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Re: Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby Multiman on Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:54 pm

In addition to fixing things it can also be used to generate material. All kinds of uninteresting sounds can be brought to life, adjusted and aligned rhythmically or tonally. I worked on a track recently in which the rhythm tracks were all made out of water. The sounds were transformed by melodyne in a way that just isn't possible with other tools.

It can also translate sounds into Midi data which can then be further manipulated and/or mixed with the original. Lots of possibilities.
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Re: Melodyne vs. Auto-Tune

Postby ALunarLullaby on Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:11 am

Multiman wrote:It can also translate sounds into Midi data which can then be further manipulated and/or mixed with the original. Lots of possibilities.


I actually used melodyne to take bass lines I wrote and translate it to midi in order to important into Power Tab and create bass tabs. Probably wasn't any faster than transcribing the tabs myself, but since I hadn't played the bass lines in a while, it sure helped me figure out what the heck I was playing.
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