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Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 I/O

Postby mcatalao on Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:01 pm

Hi!

A lot has been said about this interface. Maybe too much, or too few but words are flying over the net... Some say wonders about it, others say zip, and actually there are folks comparing it to Motu and RME gear... (Crazy might them be???)

I state in advance that this review is not comparing it with any gear whatsoever (in fact i will compare it only to my previous interfaces, and only looking at some issues).

Anyway, i thought i'd give it a try. A friend bought one and actually likes it, so... This tuesday i went into the store, and bought one to try it (15 days try out time, so i'm ok i think... :) ).

Introduction:

Focusrite is a well known Audio gear designer, most knowned from their blue and red line of gear. The Platinum line is a lower price line, though word says their gear's quality is very acceptable in all of their product line.

They started about 2 years ago working on the development of audio interfaces and DSP gear, most known gear being the Saffire line, and the Liquid Mix 1 and now v2 DSP firewire models. They've recently were awarded a Mipa for the best recording hardware for the LiquidMix (quoting:http://www1.mipa-award.de/2007/winner.htm#Studio).

Sideline... Oddly i don't look to liquid mix as a recording hardware, though this was the prise it got... Go figure... To me that is a DSP card, though firewire...

The Saffire line:
This is Focusrite's Audio interface line. There are 4 different interfaces, all different from another.
The biggest difference between them all i guess is the fact that the Saffire (the first one to be developed) had a simple DSP system, integrating 4 plugins. These plugins are also available in AU/VST version to all the other Saffires, and to be used inside any compatible audio sequencer...

The Saffire Pro 26 I/O:

This is an Audio Interface. Period! Nothing less nothing more...
From this last years playing around with this type of gear i've understood that most of them do what they do. Put audio into your PC. And believe me i've played with a lot of them... :)

Sometimes people think an interface will do this and that... Bullsh*t... It will get audio into your pc/mac/blablabla, period!

I'm sorry that i say this twice but it is what it is...

The Saffire is a 8 in 8 out analog device, with 2 adat ins and 2 adat outs, plus 2 spdif channels in and out.
It's a nicelly built piece of equipment, occupying 1 rack space. It's front panel (a light baby blue, with grey buttons and red and yellow leds) is soft and logicly disposed.
At the left you can see the 8 line inputs, followed by the 8 channel controllers. I am more fond of having the fader/controls near the channel input, but i can live with that. In the section of the chann 1 and 2 you have instrument selectors, and also Lo Z selector. 1st channel also has a mic
phase reverse selector. I kind of think it would be nice to have a M-S matrix circuit in one of the channel pair..

Each channel has a Hi Pass Filter selector. an over led and a level knob. Oddly there are two leds for the 48v Phantom Power source (showing the state of the 1-4 and 5-8 inputs) but this is controlled only by software!!!??? It's a question i have yet to see answered... If you want use 48 v in standalone mode, how do you select it??? :?:

In the end, you have a master output controller (Monitor) and with dim and mute button, that will dim/mute all outputs. Then 2 phone outputs, and last but not least the power button and the power status led. This led can be lit red (Bus powered), green (powered from an external power source) and finally it will blink depending on the device status...

Looking at the back you have (from right to left) the 8 mic inputs (XLR) eight balanced outputs (TRS), adat 1 and 2 in, adat 1 and 2 out, spdif (only phono) in and out, word clock in and out sync, midi in and out, and finally, the power source plug.

Specifications:
Let's make a wrap up of the specifications of the Saffire Pro 26 I/O...
You'll see i am not splashing the specs sheet from Focusrite, because IMHO, several lines are not relevant... Or if relevant for others please feel free to check Focusrite site. I'll obviously comment this specs...

Overview:
High Quality 24-bit/192k Bus-powered Firewire Interface
8 high quality Focusrite preamps with unrivalled A/D and D/A conversion
TOTAL i/o count of 26 inputs and 26 outputs
Free suite of Saffire VST/AU plug-ins (Compression, EQ, Reverb, Amp Sim)
2 ‘super channels’ with instrument input and variable impedance
2 separate Headphones buses on the front panel
Free SaffireControl PRO software for advanced monitoring and level control*
MIDI In and Out
Word clock In and Out
Front panel Level, Dim and Mute controls assignable to all outputs

ANALOGUE INPUTS

Mic: 8 x XLR on rear panel
Mic Gain: +13dB to + 60dB
Line 1-8: 2 x 1/4” TRS Jack (front panel)
Line 1-8 Gain: -10dB to +36dB
Instrument: As above, switched to Instrument (inputs 1 & 2 only)
Instrument Gain: +13dB to +60dB

ANALOGUE OUTPUTS

Line level 8 x 1/4” TRS Jack
Nominal output level 0dBFS = 16dBu, balanced, +22dBu globally switched with external PSU connected across all outputs
Software switched hardware DIM –12dB in output pairs 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8
Software Digital Volume control for all outputs

DIGITAL I/O
2 x SPDIF (RCA phono) on rear panel (24-bit, 192kHz) Output transformer isolated
2 x ADAT In / Out (44.1 / 48kHz), 16 channels
1 x ADAT In / Out (88.2 / 96kHz), 8 channels S-MUX
Word clock input on BNC
Word clock output on BNC

MIDI I/O
1 in / 1 out on rear panel

DIGITAL PERFORMANCE
Clock Sources: Internal clock, Sync to word clock on S/PDIF, Sync to word clock on BNC word clock input, Sync to word clock on ADAT1 or ADAT2 inputs
A/D Dynamic Range 110dB 'A-weighted' (all inputs)
D/A Dynamic Range 110dB ‘A-weighted' (all outputs)
Sample rate 44.1 to 192kHz

I think all this values are pretty standard.
Nice features are Mic preamp gain going to 60 db, all Analogue Inputs and Outputs are balanced, and A/D performance in all inputs and outputs have 110 db dynamic rante.

The Channel count is rather amasing since you can connect all digital inputs and outputs, though you'll need to sync them correctly!
Also channel 5 and 6 can be used has inserts and also you can use the Saffire as a standalone unit. This is particulary usefull for digital audio routing, mixing and A/D and D/A conversion, since you can route the 8 analogue channels to Adat 1 or Adat 2.

I like the idea that you also can connect adat 1 and Adat 2 in SMux mode thus using a Pre amp with 96 kHz capability and get up to 18 chns of 96 KHz Audio!

Performance/Testing:

So, i bought this thing about 5 days ago... It's a bit soon to start shouting around how good or bad it is... I've only played with it this weekend, recorded some fonts, and i'm planning to have a band come in and we'll have some fun testing it...

But i'm posting now my first impressions and i expect to talk about the "band experience" in a few days...

Ayway, i started working with the Saffire tuesday night. I use mainly cubase and reason to create my compositions, and record other people's work. I'm not a professional sound engineer so, most work i do is my stuff and several times i do some recordings very cheap or at no cost at all...

You might think a 26 I/O interface for me is overkill... Well... It is. But that's me, i'm crazy!

Anyway, Tuesday night i got to install the Saffire in my pc (the Saffire will install on Mac OX x, and also LINUX using FFADO (former named as freebob, as is at lease reported on ffado site.). I have Windows XP Pro with SP1... I've never liked the idea of installing SP2 and since i don't use this pc to browse the internet, i simply didn't install it.

So, i simply plugged it to the pc via a firewire cable. Installed the drivers, who ask me along the process to plug in the device, wich i do. Then wait a couple of seconds and... that's it!
Device installed and ready to use. Simple, no bugs, no problems, as all install procedures should be.

So, at this time i get to open the Saffire Pro control software. A nice blue window (much like the blue from the saffire) appears with a bunch of lights and buttons. At top i have the channel strips grouped by input. Analog, spdif, adat1 and adat2, have it's own tabs, making this management more easy. Each one will be enabled when you enable the source. At the right and disposed vertically (mmm i didn't like this very much... ) are the monitoring channells, with mixing capabilities. Yet to answer, how to enable adat and spdif output...
The remaining space is used to controll the device at different levels, such as wich sources are active, clock source selection, operation mode, device selection (you can connect up to 3 devices), session controll, and so on...

So, i thought i'd start to check out this by opening an old cubase project.
Start-Programs-Cubase SE wait...

and suddenly i hear a strange KGDSSHHHSHS...
What the muck?? :shock:

Cubase continues to load, and finally i start opening my project.
The project is at 44.1 kHz, Saffire at 48... Strange... Pops and clicks while changing the clock, and the device shuts down and restarts... Seems it is this way the hardware changes it's clock... Geez...

Well... Go on... Project loaded, press play... Headphones start to play... Normally... OK, nice..

Now i want to test it with an adat input. I connect the adat out from my octane to the focusrite adat 1 in, change the source, change the source clock, pops, clicks, device off, device on, no sync lock and oeiwuhedknasud... MAn... It doesn't lock with a different sample rate... One has to sync clocks manually... Don't like this too...
Change octane's clock to 44.1, go to saffire controll pannel and... Err message in the screen "No Firewire connectio available, please check your cable"... I then look to the device and it is disconnected!!!! Shut it off in the power button, start it on again... [darn], the stupid session is off again... Input selection is only analog, i have to set this on again... Geeez!!! What crappy stupid control application...
Back on, i FINALLY am able to get octane and Saffire working together...

There was something strange going on here... I went to Focusrite Site, and got the most recent drivers... After installing things got smoother, but i still hear that odd noise when starting cubase se (i tested it withreaper and had no noise, so it might be a problem with the installation or from the fact i am using an old version (1.06)), and the device is a little noisy when changing clock rates...


(Soon to be continued - More tests to come: 2 adat inputs, spdif, and all inputs connected)

Quality:

Well, i'm always a little suspect when talking about the quallity of a new device. When i buy one, it is because i REALLY WANT IT, so when i try it i am in that urge to "make it work"... The past lines (the issues on the clock sync ant those cliks) are things that i am willing to "live with". From my previous experience, i don't think i will be changing clock sources, or even clock rates, every each minute... Usually i record 44,1 kHZ, or 48 kHz, always at 24 bit. Period. I think that noise with cubase is due to that particulary application and since i'm upgrading, it will be gone. And this noise didn't appear with Reaper, so... I believe this will be a solved problem by upgrading to cubase SE 3... Or starting to use reaper on a regular basis, but since i'm still evaluating that one too... lets wait...

Playback:
So, back to that Cubase Project... This is an old project i had. A band i recorded long time ago, with an old fostek board and a really crappy Guillemot MAxi studio isis... Strange heh? But it is a project that i always used to cheg each device i got, mainly because i know it very well. AND it is a project that i didn't took part of it... It's also a revival way to see how bad i were, miking and mixing... hehe

Anyway, usually check all tracks, and how they sound and then the overall sound of the mix... Then i'll tweack this an that, and several times i end up with a different mix... This is due to 2 things... My way of hearing this, due either to aesthetical form, or to improvements on my critical hearing... Or, finally because things really sound different because i'm using a different interface.
I ended up by tweacking more than i actually thoutht i'd tweack...

I also found myself hearing some tunes on cd, and some of my stuff...

With all of this sources the Saffire sounded coherent and tight. Nice controlled bass and really good highs compared to my other interfaces. A better scense of space and noticeable larger headroom... I was listening to it in an untreated room but i took some time to test it with heatphones late night (don't start it, i have a 2 months old daughter... my ears can take it, she's proven that!!! :) Plus you don't wan't to wake her up!!! ).

Note: My previous interface (Maudio 1814) had a problem related to grounding and electric shielding... Everytime i moved my mouse or closed or opened an application window noise from the computer would be heard, like hdd acces noise. Notice this was not a Windows Sound since all sounds in my windows confic are always disabled. This was electrical! Though not nocive (i didn't notice this in the audio files) i was really anoying!

In opposition the saffire is really quiet. Not only this isn't there, as there weren't noticed any ground loops, or simmilar noises.


Recording:

I don't have the most trained ear and certainly am not one of those enlightned ones that have golden years that naturally notice small nuances between this and that pre amp... Also a dissertion on how good this amps are, and stating they are pristine would be at least... hipocrisy! I wouldn't expect 8 pré amps to sound as pristine as 1 pre from the red line...
In fact i even didn't try any red line pre, so and again, i'm not comparing it to other gear (trying to do an unbiased review here if it is possible)...

Anyway, Fucusrite states this pre's are derived from the green series. So, since i don't know really know what they mean by derived, and also i haven't heard one before, i'll simply make a subjective aproach to it's sound.

I was in fact hoping they were at least near as good as the octane's prés, wich are ok, imho. But it surpassed it. Not only they have higher gain, as they have very simmilar noise figures... A great addition is that while connecting the SP-B1 to the maudio i had some noise from the mike and it is gone when using the saffire. I believe there was a great deal of work on the electrics side, i may state the saffire is really quiet.

Great tight and sweet tone, very focused and almost no coloration. The Octane is a little higher in the mid and high section, and i find miself liking more the sound from the saffire... But then again, this are little nuances...

I tried mainly the SP-B1, and a dinamic Shure sm-57. Nice gain for the dinamics!

Despite those issues with the driver, it seems to be well developed at the audio side, and latency is not an issue with this interface.
I managed to get it to wort at 6ms/9ms with no glitches and no audio drops. 15 ms, is enough for virtual instruments, and general mixing.

Monitoring latency is virtually none with direct monitoring.

Conclusion:

Pros:
Channel count (26 I/O).
Build quality.
Nice pre-amps (as it is possible to me to analize).
Very quiet unit.
Price.

Cons:
Strange behavior on Clock changing.
Strange noise when using cubase old version (yet to try with new versions)
Cheesy control application.

Well, i guess for the next days i will be getting the most out from this unit, since i'm deciding if it stays (or not).
IMHO Focusrite has a great piece of hardware here, but clearly space for improvement in the controll application side, plus drivers.

Very nice A/D, good pre's and good D/A, low noise, great looks and good quality build...
The Focusrite gives the mobilized engineer the hability to record more complex projects. Just plug one or two adats and you're ready to go...

Rate: 8 in 10
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Postby mcatalao on Wed May 16, 2007 12:16 pm

Hi!

I didn't have the chance to post more on this issue, though i have some news on this.

Remember the previous post i had some issues with the driver and the Software control (crackling when changing digital sources, or changing clock, AND when opening Cubase.)

I mailed focusrite support about this issues and most of them are solved with a new beta driver and a firmware update, that they have in their site.

BTW, they replied to me really fast (3 work days and i had an answer).

I've been doing some recordings but have yet to work a little more on it!
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Postby nanashiwanderer on Wed May 16, 2007 3:18 pm

Pros:
Channel count (26 I/O).
Build quality.
Nice pre-amps (as it is possible to me to analize).
Very quiet unit.
Price.

Cons:
Strange behavior on Clock changing.
Strange noise when using cubase old version (yet to try with new versions)
Cheesy control application.


The Pres are green series. not Grey Series. There never was a grey Series. the Green series are the pres on the VMP, Twin Track Master, and Octopre LE. Their good around the Onyx.

The Clock stuff not suprised at the least. This unit had long delays do to clock problems, it was delayed by 6 months...
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Postby Tweak on Thu May 17, 2007 4:08 am

Nice review!
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Postby mcatalao on Thu May 17, 2007 10:08 am

nanashiwanderer wrote:
Pros:
Channel count (26 I/O).
Build quality.
Nice pre-amps (as it is possible to me to analize).
Very quiet unit.
Price.

Cons:
Strange behavior on Clock changing.
Strange noise when using cubase old version (yet to try with new versions)
Cheesy control application.


The Pres are green series. not Grey Series. There never was a grey Series. the Green series are the pres on the VMP, Twin Track Master, and Octopre LE. Their good around the Onyx.


The Clock stuff not suprised at the least. This unit had long delays do to clock problems, it was delayed by 6 months...


Hi nanashiwanderer!

You're right, believe me i ment Green and wrote Grey... Sorry about that!
I've changed that in the main post.

Do you mean by Onyx as Mackie Onyx?

BTW, a little update on the driver/pops and clicks/clock change and sync issue:

I downloaded and installed that new beta driver. Along with the driver is also a firmware update.
The unit is now stabler, and less picky. Some improvements on external clock recon, where now you just plug the new device, select out sync and don't need to sepecify clock rate. It just syncs to the external clock.

However changing clock's disconnects and reconnects the device so you'll still hear some noises in the headphones...
In the other driver version i found that one could not use hardware monitoring AND the headphones would be muted at higher samplerates (88.2, 96 and up).
In this driver that issue was solved.

Cubase SE 1 works fine now, no noise, and works great with the even with adat connected.

That's it!
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Postby nanashiwanderer on Thu May 17, 2007 12:39 pm

Do you mean by Onyx as Mackie Onyx
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Postby mcatalao on Fri May 18, 2007 5:13 am

Stupid function update... :(

There is a button in the control application called "Headroom".
This button is supposed to increase headroom in the 1-8 chann prés...
-Huh???

How is this possible and Why does it exists, may i ask???
Anyway just for you info, to connect this you have to use the interface with the external power supply, AND there is one case of a saffire pro dying when pressing this button while not connected to the external supply (SOS Forum - Sorry about posting about another forum tweak...)...

BTW, i was using it only with firewire.
Duh...

Got to test this then...

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Postby sillyman on Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:34 pm

26 ins and outs, what does this relate to in the real world?

I want to record 2 guitars, a bass, midi and stereo audio out from an elec drum kit and have 2/3 mics left over for vocals/acoustic. Can I do this with the Focusrite?

Output wise I am taking the main outputs into a cheap little mixer from which I have the main out to my Yammy MSP5 Studios and the control room outs to my Behringer 8 channel headphone amp. Hopefully I would be able to route each output from the back of the focusrite into an individual input on the headphone amp and have 8 completely different mixes in each headphone?

Thought I'd revive an old thread (the wonders of the search function)

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Postby mcatalao on Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:51 pm

sillyman wrote:26 ins and outs, what does this relate to in the real world?

I want to record 2 guitars, a bass, midi and stereo audio out from an elec drum kit and have 2/3 mics left over for vocals/acoustic. Can I do this with the Focusrite?


Relate???? What kind of question is that, i though this was the real world...

I'd say you could do that with only 8 analogue inputs and the focusrite already has it, so the 26 i/o might be overkill. Mind that the 26 I/O are audio inputs and the saffire pro has 1 additional midi input. From your description, you would feed channel 1 and 2 with the guitars through the instrument ins, then the bass in the third input, using an amp output, or something else that would bring up the bas to line level like a bass pod or simmilar, the stereo inputs from the drums 4 and 5, and its midi to the midi inputs, then the 3 mics would go to channels 6, 7 and eight! This assuming you don't need multiple sources for you guitars and bass.

Further, as i stated before, the focusrite also has 2 adat inputs and a digital spdif stereo input.
So if you need more analogue inputs, you will need one or two adat A/D conversors. In my case, i have the octane, as i said in the first post. That is actually the way the Focusrite is very usefull.

Imagine the following:
You need to record a band live concert, and most commonly nowadays, you'll se a digital mixer. Imagine how easy would be to record that band, when the connections between that digital mixer and your audio card would simply be 2 optic cords.

sillyman wrote:Output wise I am taking the main outputs into a cheap little mixer from which I have the main out to my Yammy MSP5 Studios and the control room outs to my Behringer 8 channel headphone amp. Hopefully I would be able to route each output from the back of the focusrite into an individual input on the headphone amp and have 8 completely different mixes in each headphone?

Thought I'd revive an old thread (the wonders of the search function)

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Yes and yes. Though not at the same time... Routing is very archaich in this unit.
For the first question... The unit has 2 working modes, Sound card and recording. When in the recording mode, it will route a mix from the sound in the computer, i mean from the softwares, to the main outputs.

When in sound card mode it will route only the software audio. So you will toggle between this settings, whether you are mixing or recording, because using the sound card mode will silence the card and you won't have to disable any input.

To "play" with live mixes and feeding your headphone amp, you would use either the software monitoring of your sequencer, with the handicap that you would have some latency, OR, you could use direct monitoring, with the handicap that you could not feed the headphone amp with the mix.

However, if routing is a major issue for you, take a look at the presonus firestudio. I've read over the net, and i think also here at the SC, that it's routing capabilities are really great!

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Postby sillyman on Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:14 pm

Thanks for that mcataloa, I have actually bought the Saffire Pro 10 instead of the 26 - I don't need the ADAT.

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Postby psychocircus on Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:38 am

Hey mcatalao - do you know how to enable software monitoring in Cubase SX3? I am using Cubase and I can see the input signal in Cubase but I can't monitor the incoming signal in Cubase. If I use the hardware monitoring of course I can, but that is not much help if I am recording a clean guitar signal to process in an amp simulator :-(

If I recording the guitar clean and then play it back I can hear the amp simulation, but if I try software monitoring while I am recording I get silence which is cracking me up. The main thing I record at home is clean guitars for processing.
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Postby mcatalao on Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:33 pm

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Postby psychocircus on Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:53 pm

lmao

I have! I've even downloaded the manual's off the website to see if anything changed from my manual, ensured the drivers are the latest, ensured the firmware is the latest and tried Adobe Audition as well. Still the same issue :-(

In Cubase under the driver screen to option for software direct monitoring is greyed out too.

Any ideas?
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Postby mcatalao on Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:11 pm

Ok, what are you doing really doing?

For what i remember you have to enable software monitor from the monitoring menu.

Then in the tracks controls you have one button to enable monitoring.
This should be enough.
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Postby mcatalao on Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:29 am

Ok...

I don't understand, you ARE using the Focusrite 26 i/0?

If so, i've just found the "Direct Monitoring" option at the Cubase PReferences is not available (It's grayed as you said).

According to Steinberg's manual (i hate to be right but you really must read you manual carefully!!!!), this function (Asio direct monitoring) depends on the audio driver of your interface...

Not an issue to me anyway, but hope it helps.

Nonetheless...

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Postby Rick Levine on Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:29 pm

Hi Miguel, did you ever find out what that headroom button does? I've seen it other places and wondered as you did what it is for.
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Postby mcatalao on Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:51 am

Well, i went on to test it, and gave up the time i connected the power supply, because it introduced noise in the monitors (it's a ground loop, the pc, and monitors have grounded plugs, the power source of the saffire does not!!! Which is stupid!) However using my laptop i don't have any noise so i might give it another try some other time...

I just found this:

http://emusician.com/elecinstruments/fo ... pro_bonus/

It talks about it...
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Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro LE

Postby ryantillotson on Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:28 pm

I have not yet purchased this product, but I am very interested. I will be recording a few live concerts in the near future. I am just curious how easy this tool is to use for live recordings. I think I would be plugging this into the sound board and into my MacBookPro where I could manually adjust the levels. How many inputs would I need to do something like this, and does this device have it?
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Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro LE

Postby mcatalao on Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:32 pm

ryantillotson wrote:I have not yet purchased this product, but I am very interested. I will be recording a few live concerts in the near future. I am just curious how easy this tool is to use for live recordings. I think I would be plugging this into the sound board and into my MacBookPro where I could manually adjust the levels. How many inputs would I need to do something like this, and does this device have it?
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Hello Ryan, and Welcome to the Forum!

The saffire Pro 26 I/0, is very easy to use. There were still some issues with the driver, mainly related to clock sinc but most of it is solved. Focusrite has a good support service, they always answered my questions. The sinc issues are a bit nasty, since you can't simply change clocks and so on, but i described that in the rest of the thread, so read it carefully so that you understand the issues.

As for Live recordings, i just did one this Thursday. I used the Focusrite and an Maudio Octane. The Octane as the master clock, though the saffire's clock is better, i sacrificed some purity for sake of simplicity.

It was simple, just plug it to the Laptop, plug octane to focusrite through adat, cable up (i didn't use focusrite's pre amps since i was being fed by a live Mixer's Direct Outs - a Halen and Heath), start Cubase, level at the same time as the Live Mixer engineer so that you wont take twice the time of the musicians, wrap it up, and wait for the start of the gig to press rec!

In this case, the gig was rather simple, and actually only the focusrite would do the trick, but we thought there were more than 8 channels. The channel count was really 9 channels, 7 hooked up to the focusrite from the mixers direct out, and more two on the octane, from 2 AKG C1000s, that were capturing audience feed and room ambiance.

Mind that at the time this was the first and only interface delivering 26 I/O in a single box (not counting mixers with interfaces and so on) for less than 700 €.

I advise you also to take a look at the new MAudio ProFire (i think it's the name...) which uses the octane prés, and to Presonus Firestudio (Known for better mixer and routing capabilities).

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Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 I/O

Postby Tweak on Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:18 am

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Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 I/O

Postby ZippyDan on Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:21 pm

This no longer seems to be listed on Focusrite's website. It is still in the support section of course. Has it been replaced by a better model?
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Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 I/O

Postby Tweak on Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:33 pm

The Saffire 40 and 56 are the newer models.

http://www.zzounds.com/a--3745/item--FOCLIQSAF56

http://www.zzounds.com/a--3745/item--FOCSAFFPRO40

The 56 is looking really good. 8x10 with dual adat, s/pdif and 2 liquid pres.
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Re: Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 I/O

Postby ZippyDan on Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:15 pm

the 40 doesn't do 192kHz as the 26 did, and the 56 is waaay more expensive :-(

i'm amazed the site-owner still posts! any chance you could look at this slightly related post?

http://www.studio-central.com/phpbb/vie ... 19&t=73480
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