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The new Melodyne direct note access thing...

Postby LB on Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:28 am

http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2008/03 ... ccess.html

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I'm wondering... Would these mean someone could, say, sample and rearrange for a remix? Also, would this allow you to take a single sample and make a multisample from it?

Also, exactly how would that work for intellectual property....
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Postby _controlfreak on Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:32 am

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Postby LB on Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:42 am

_controlfreak wrote::crazy: :crazy: :shock: :crazy: :shock: :shock: :crazy: :shock: :crazy: :crazy: :shock: :crazy: :shock: :shock: :crazy: :shock: :crazy: :crazy: :shock: :crazy: :shock: :shock: :crazy: :shock:

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See, if I was a hydra or Plato's perception of appetite, I'd have looked exactly the same after seeing the video.
Also, it just occurred to me that maybe this should have been in a dedicated forum... Sorry.
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Postby _controlfreak on Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:47 am

An event of this magnitude transcends all forums :crazy:.

As far as intellectual property goes, technically you wouldn't be allowed to use components of others' works, but now, how would you ever know?

Either way, I don't think this will be able to pry apart full mixes, as none of the examples contained more than one instrument or any percussion parts.
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Postby LB on Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:55 am

Yeah, but you could sample breaks, solos, etc. and rip off that patch easily enough. This is pretty intense though. It sounds so natural in the video, but that's got to be in really, really optimal conditions.
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Postby Steven mc. on Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:17 am

I wouldn't have believed it If I didn't see it! thats the truth. What technology! This used to be "Impossible", no question. Amazing. I didn't bother with Melodyne cause I still have Autotune 3, But...This Is Making me wonder? how much did melodyne 1 cost?
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Postby scatman84 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:36 am

Whoa !!!! Inventor of the Century !

I was more baffled by the last part of his interview where he mentioned something like each track will be aware of what other track is playing.....like playing a band !!!!

Man I can imagine a day when Auto Mixing softwares will be out where you leave your DAW and room alone, and it will mix all by itself........

Also this Melodyne thing can bring more slackness on the part of singers, especially studio singers !!!

but hats off to that Peter......!!!! he looked like he had invented it....!!!
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Postby shaaregeulah on Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:58 am

I simply can't believe it!!!!!!!

Just the other day I was thinking about such technology and I said to myself, "yeah... they'll probably come out with it pretty soon... and I'll bet it'll be Celemony to release it" I must be psychic.

Absolutely awesome!!! Finally!!!!
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Postby Wolfhead on Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:44 am

That is incredible!!! I use Melodyne, but this is way out there!!! That guy must have a chipset for a brain.
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Postby Hammy on Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:34 pm

Holy thhhit. . . .
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Postby Bristol Posse on Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:51 pm

And to think I wasted all that time learning how to play guitar.
Now I'l just be able to strum the open strings once and then make whatever chords I want. Aint life grand
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Postby scatman84 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:54 pm

Just imagine the multitudes of changes taking place in all studios across the world........

1 hour session can be reduced to 15 mins.....literally......!!!

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Postby joelpilling on Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:11 pm

Woah.
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Postby Wolfhead on Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:17 pm

scatman84 wrote:Just imagine the multitudes of changes taking place in all studios across the world........

1 hour session can be reduced to 15 mins.....literally......!!!

:shock:


No, increased...

15 minutes of recording... 4 hours of editing.
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Postby tristancook on Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:07 pm

Unbelievable.

Just awesome.
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Postby shaaregeulah on Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:51 pm

Wolfhead wrote:
scatman84 wrote:Just imagine the multitudes of changes taking place in all studios across the world........

1 hour session can be reduced to 15 mins.....literally......!!!

:shock:


No, increased...

15 minutes of recording... 4 hours of editing.


This new thing is not something you want to depend on, rather it should be used as a problem solver when there is no other choice.
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Postby joelpilling on Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:00 pm

shaaregeulah wrote:
Wolfhead wrote:
scatman84 wrote:Just imagine the multitudes of changes taking place in all studios across the world........

1 hour session can be reduced to 15 mins.....literally......!!!

:shock:


No, increased...

15 minutes of recording... 4 hours of editing.


This new thing is not something you want to depend on, rather it should be used as a problem solver when there is no other choice.


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Postby LB on Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:27 pm

joelpilling wrote:
shaaregeulah wrote:[

This new thing is not something you want to depend on, rather it should be used as a problem solver when there is no other choice.


Aye.


Yeah. I'm thinking these are all super optimal conditions... Otherwise it would be just as someone said earlier: strum a chord and just arrange the rest like it was midi.
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Postby Grimskald on Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:12 am

That must be the most amazing software i have ever seen. Almost kind of shocking actually. :P
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Postby Steven mc. on Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:46 am

God man....This makes me actually question, Will we ever be able to unbake the cake...It doesn't sound too ridiculous now.
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Re: The new Melodyne direct note access thing...

Postby tbuenger on Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:52 am

LB wrote:http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2008/03/melodyne-direct-note-access.html

So.
I'm wondering... Would these mean someone could, say, sample and rearrange for a remix? Also, would this allow you to take a single sample and make a multisample from it?

Also, exactly how would that work for intellectual property....


I got the email from Celemony on this new software. It took me awhile to figure out what it was capable of doing because I was thinking "that far out of the box."

Melodyne Plugin has been a godsend for me recently with the spate of young screamo bands who also try to sing. :lol:
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Postby terry on Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:38 pm

Would you say this was the first step to wards Iproduce!! :shock:
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Postby Swami Digital on Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:57 am

Steven mc. wrote:God man....This makes me actually question, Will we ever be able to unbake the cake...It doesn't sound too ridiculous now.


This is an amazing feature, but I think not quite the innovation that everyone is thinking it is. Of course, I'm sure they're not going to release their technology without a patent filing (which will be much anticipated reading). However, one think he said got me to thinking about how they were doing this. He said something along the lines of thinking it was technically impossible, but being able to do it in practice. This leads me to believe they have taken a sort of shortcut method that is limited in scope. (And I have some ideas about how they might have done that.) I'll wait till it comes out and I've tried it out before I make any judgment on it though. I might buy melodyne 1 right now to start playing with, to test out some of my ideas.

Of course, if they're actually doing true blind deconvolution then they're going to make billions licensing their technology to the communications and signal processing markets, but I doubt that.

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Postby Dib on Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:02 pm

I saw this the other day... Very cool...

...It frightens me a bit, I mean I'm 100% on-board with what shaaregeulah said about it being a good tool if you need it, but I mean how many 'artists' are going to see it and use it as such? Its just like auto-tune in a way, awesome if used in appropriate situations.

Next thing it's going to have some setup so that it will correct in real time... Plug in your guitar, whack the strings, and suddenly, you sound like Jimmy Page... :cry:

Not that this isn't rad, I cant wait to try it, I just hope it's not abused.
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Postby Underground_Wisdom on Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:27 am

Actually, I don't think if it just as a corrective tool.

The part that excited me the most was the fact that you can also play the individual notes that Melodyne created on your midi keyboard. Really, it can also be seen as kind of the evolutionary child of the sampler--being able to take, say a guitar sample, and not just draw new notes and chords, but be able to play them, expressively from your keys.

So, not only a godsend for correcting and manipulating, but also an inspirational writing and composition tool as well. If a tool can accomplish both well, then it's obviously a home run.

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