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Calling All Pros To Help! Pro level Mic & preamp

Preamps are one of the MOST important links in the audio chain. The better ones are unavoidably expensive. So before you plunge, learn about what is out there so you can make the Right choice for your studio and your budget.

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Calling All Pros To Help! Pro level Mic & preamp

Postby thefuture on Fri May 13, 2005 9:19 pm

im looking for a mic to record male baritone/tenor modern r&b vocals. more towards usher, alicia keys, merriah carey kind of sound. ive been researching a lot and when it seems like ive found the perfect mic some other mic jumps infront of it. i also need a preamp for this mic im looking at the avalon M5 but another good alternative recomendations will be appreciated. i also need an a/v converter so i can send the audio to my DAW. Im looking for experienced people to answer these questions please dont guess cause something is expensive thanx
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Postby jonnyc on Fri May 13, 2005 11:38 pm

check out the manley mic pre's. but honestly for the mic you'll probably get the usual "it depends on the vocalist" answer. Just buy a Neumann or a Soundelux can't go wrong there.
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Postby Blue Bear Sound on Sat May 14, 2005 4:01 am

Millenia Media, Manley, Massenburg pres along with an appropriate mic for that particular vocalist and you can't go wrong. That is the kind of gear that big-budget productions would commonly be using.... it's also priced way out of range for most home-recordist's budgets.
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Postby Dot on Sun May 15, 2005 9:46 am

thefuture, are you only going to need one channel? Do you have a total budget?
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Postby thefuture on Sun May 15, 2005 5:11 pm

i think one cahnnel should be sufficient. i dont have a total budget im the kind of person that saves up for what i need. but please dont go over your head with features taht r not requiered
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Postby owel on Sun May 15, 2005 6:20 pm

thefuture wrote:i think one cahnnel should be sufficient. i dont have a total budget im the kind of person that saves up for what i need. but please dont go over your head with features taht r not requiered


It's really hard to recommend the "best" without a given price range. If you give a dollar figure amount, then we'd be able to advise the "best" on that price range.
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Postby thefuture on Sun May 15, 2005 6:22 pm

up to about 500
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Postby owel on Sun May 15, 2005 6:40 pm

$500 for the preamp? or $500 for the mic AND preamp?
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Postby thefuture on Sun May 15, 2005 6:47 pm

my bad i was thinking of something else. ad conver. for the mic i would spend $1000 at most. preamp probably around 1500(i believe tahts where the really quality stuff starts right?
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Postby thefuture on Sun May 15, 2005 6:49 pm

what about diy. can u recomend any of those too?
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Postby owel on Sun May 15, 2005 7:03 pm

thefuture wrote:what about diy. can u recomend any of those too?


Depends... DIYing a Neve can still be expensive because of the cost of parts (especially the Made in UK transformers... need 2 per channel... about $150usd, could be more expensive nowadays because of the UK Pound and US Dollar exchange rate).

I've cloned the preamps of a nice pre and cost me about $180 in parts per channel (and $120+ of that is the cost of the 2 transformers). Add the case and switches, and it's about $240. Of course, my labor cost is not counted.

> preamp probably around 1500(i believe tahts where the really quality stuff starts right?

You can't go wrong with a Great River or Vintech Neve clone. You can find them between $1200 to $1500.
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Postby thefuture on Sun May 15, 2005 7:33 pm

thanx. what about the avalon m5?
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Postby owel on Sun May 15, 2005 8:51 pm

I've heard the M5 and a violin... it was lovely, HA! :) it brought a tear to my eye. It sounds very nice.
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Postby thefuture on Tue May 17, 2005 7:03 pm

du u guys know any stores that sell mostly pro audio stuff and have a catalog. since the website will not be zzounds please pm me with it. :wink:
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Postby Dot on Wed May 18, 2005 1:48 am

High-end single-channel pres start at right around $1000. In that ballpark are:

John Hardy M-1 - clean, natural
Great River ME-1NV - versatile and heavy on the transformer
A Designs MP-1 - clean tube pre
Sebatron vmp-1000e - colored tube pre
API 512C with lunchbox - tight, punchy
Avalon M5 - clean, sheen
Millennia TD-1 with HV-3 - transparent, high resolution

For what you're doing I'd recommend you consider the Avalon M5 or the A Designs MP-1.
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Postby thefuture on Wed May 18, 2005 5:47 pm

thanx
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Postby thefuture on Wed May 18, 2005 5:51 pm

dot do u have website? how long have u been in production for sounds like u know a lot. i'll give u a list of the stuff i want to get for my studio so u can cridict them
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Postby Dot on Thu May 19, 2005 1:46 am

thefuture, I've got two sites listed in my sig. Also check out another one of my sites at http://www.thelisteningsessions.com - that's where we compare gear.

I've been working in studios and on music projects for a long time.

You can PM if you need any info or want me to check out a list of stuff you're considering.
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