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How to Connect your E-mu Sampler to your PC

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How to Connect your E-mu Sampler to your PC

Postby Tweak on Thu Nov 21, 2002 5:33 am

How to Connect your E-mu Sampler to your PC

I've done it for years and think I have experienced every wrinkle in the proceess. Read about it here:


http://www.tweakheadz.com/scsi_transfer ... ampler.htm


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How do I get .WAV files from my computer to my ESi or EOS Sampler? I get asked this question all the time so I am going to answer it in full here. I have to say as a disclaimer that if you use this information, you do so at your own risk. This is not hard to do. However, for any SCSI chain to work you need to make sure that each SCSI device has to have its own unique ID and that both ends of the SCSI chain need to be terminated. You can read more about IDs and Termination is my Surviving SCSI Hell Article.
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Postby clintxxxx on Fri Jan 17, 2003 9:41 am

I followed your advice but couldn't get wavelab or recycle to see my e6400 ultra until I downloaded the SPCI exe file from adaptec. Now it works very well.

I have now tried connecting to an esi4000 but this does not work very well. Recycle can send files to the esi but not recieve them and wavelab just comes up with a SCSI error message whether sending or receiving. Any ideas about this problem?

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Postby Tweak on Fri Jan 17, 2003 6:23 pm

If it works with the e6400 but not the esi, you have a problem in your setup somewhere. remove the esi drivers in the control panel, reboot.

or

check for termination isssues --do you have a zip in the esi? is it terminated?

or

cable issues. One ill seated cable will wreck things

or

id issues.

good luck!
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Postby fruta on Fri Feb 14, 2003 2:28 pm

OLA

i have an esi4000 + scsizip(ext)

im gonna buy a pc now

2 conect both i only need the scsicontroller (ex: adaptec) right?
i dont need to buy scsi harddiscs i can use ide harddiscs

is this correct

wiiiickeeeeeeedd site

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Postby Tweak on Fri Feb 14, 2003 6:31 pm

Nope. IDE disks do not work with emu esis. There's no way. The scsi card will allow you to send wave files IF you have an editor that supports SMDI--that's sound forge full version or Wavelab full version.
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Postby Mike Ticehurst on Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:09 pm

Hi

Hope you can help.

I've recently bought an ESi2000, I've just purchased a SCSI card and wondered if you could clarify a couple of things.

1. When installing the SCSI card will the "other devices show everything on my scsi chain which will consist of, after installing the SCSI card
ESi2000 - SCSI CD Reader - Iomega 250 Zip - SCSI card in PC, or do I need to install the card with just the ESi2000 in the chain?

2. I have both Soundforge & Soundiver but within soundiver I cannot find an ESi2000 module. Do I need to set up a "universal module". If so can you give me any hints on how best to do this. Also is it possible to use soundiver to arrange banks & presets and also to alter the on board efx parameters?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Postby admin on Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:35 pm

Sounddiver does not work with the esi series. The esi does not send or receive sysex. Forge will transfer samples just fine. Gotta run.
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Postby fruta on Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:22 pm

[quote="Tweak"]Nope. IDE disks do not work with emu esis. There's no way. The scsi card will allow you to send wave files IF you have an editor that supports SMDI--that's sound forge full version or Wavelab full version.

ok so if i get that ill be able to send wave files without a scsi hd?

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Postby Tweak on Tue Feb 18, 2003 2:24 am

You need a scsi card, a sample editor with SMDI transfer ability and a scsi cable. Of course you need some media to store yoor banks, like a scsi hard drive or zip.
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Postby fruta on Tue Feb 18, 2003 2:33 pm

i have a scsi zip 100

my favourite emu banks will be there(bass ,notes only and loops mainly percussion tribal stuff )

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Postby Mike Ticehurst on Tue Feb 18, 2003 3:56 pm

Hi & Help!!!

I've connected my SCSI chain as directed in your explanation & used soundforge to send a sample. there is a load bar at the bottom of soundforge which says the sample is loading, this goes as far as 99% and then freezes. The sample has actually arrived in the ESi2000 and is playable. However soundforge has now locked up and I have to re-boot the PC. I've done this and then tried to load a 2nd sample to 002 but this time nothing happens at all and nothing gets through to the sampler. It appears to me that the load bar should reach 100% for the "transaction" to be properly completed. Is that right? And if it is how do I rectify this problem?

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Postby gus66 on Tue Feb 25, 2003 1:35 am

Hi,
Master Tweak, I been wondering whether I would be able to solve this but no way.
There is no 8 fail at all when I'm trying WOS recognizing EOS
No fancy picture with 8 E-mu Emulator IV SCSI Processor Device
I'm running Windows 2000 and no Device Manager on the Control Panel nither.
When I do the process only a dialog box saying New Hardware, came up, then It doesn't try to find drivers by them self.
No idea with this :x all in all I can see Emulatro IV 2:6 from EOS Link - Sampler

Any comment ?
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Postby Tweak on Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:49 am

Are you sure you understood the article?

The "new hardware found" gives you the option to search automatically. It does not search automatically unless you click it. EOS link will not help here. You do have a scsi card?
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Postby gus66 on Tue Feb 25, 2003 8:04 am

Ooops I thought that I was understanting :shock:
We are talking about SCSI comunication beetwen PC and EOS :?:
Following your directions OK until... (read CAPS)
6. Windows "plug 'n play" will find the sampler on the SCSI chain as an "unknown device" YES.  You might think you need to install a driver here, but you don't OK.  An alert box will come up 8 times NO ALERT BOX COME UP 8 TIMES JUST One, AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER IS THE SAME THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT IS THE PROCESS THAT STARTS WHEN I BOOT SAMPLER AND PC. Let windows search for an appropriate driver all 8 times and let it fail all 8 times OK BUT i'VE JUST GOT ONE MESSAGE, ONLY ONE TIME, AND ASKING FOR WHERE TO FIND DRIVERS (OPTIONS FROM CD OR LET WINDOWS TO DETECT AUTOMATICALLY)
This might take a long time, so be patient.  If you do it right you will only have to do it once.   In the end, in the device manager you will see the 8 entries for the sampler under a tab called "other device" I DON'T SEE NO "other device" BUT PCMICA ADAPTERS- TEXAS INSTRUMENT PCI-1450 CARD BUS CONTROLLER, TWO TIMES Do NOT try to install drivers OK I don't .  Do NOT delete these items HOW COULD I DELETE SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT THERE Windows needs these to communicate to your sampler. Seems that me to Even though Windows does not know what they are, your SCSI card and your sampler DOES recognize them and use them.  The following pics are of my setup with my E-5000. My Esi-32 setup looks similar, except it says ESi 32 instead of Emulator IV in theses boxes. FINALLY, THE POINT IS THAT IN MY CASE IT SEEMS THAT IT RUNS ANOTHER PROCESS (DIFFERENT TO WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED IN YOUR ARTICLE) AND I DON'T KNOW WHY. MY BE DUE TO WINDOWS 2000 ?

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Postby Tweak on Tue Feb 25, 2003 9:10 am

Are you using a PCMCIA adapter or a SCSI card? It is possible that the adapter will not work.
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Postby gus66 on Tue Feb 25, 2003 9:36 am

I'm using a PCMCIA SCSI adapter on ThinkPad IBM Laptop
Regarding if it's working or not, that's why I was mentioning EOS Link 8) (link done via SCSI) At least here, PC do recognize EOS, therefore adapter is working

Regs.
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Postby Tweak on Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:38 pm

Cool. I don't know anyone that has gotten that to work, so if you get it fully functional, tell us how.

The article I wrote concerns only scsi cards, I would not expect it to be the same on a PCMCIA card.

Good luck.
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Connecting EMU E5000 Ultra to PC running WinXP via SCSI

Postby DrC on Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:55 pm

Can anyone please help,

I have the following:

E5000 Ultra 32Mb OS v4.6 (was v4.1?) with internal IDE HDD (SCSI ID 5)
Windows XP
Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI card (SCSI ID 7) - standard WinXP drivers

I am using WaveLab v3 & Recycle v2

I cannot get Recycle or Wavelab to transmit or receive samples.

SCSI chain is NULL temrinated.

Windows can see the SCSI & sampler in control panel.

When booting the PC, I have cancelled the found new hardware request as suggested in http://tweakheadz.com/scsi_transfer_pc_ ... ampler.htm

Stuck and frsutrated cos I had this working under Win98 Rel2.

I am the only person in the world that is doing this?

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Postby Tweak on Tue Feb 25, 2003 4:10 pm

You don't hit "cancel". You hit "search for the driver..., etc". Then you see something like "cannot install hardware" and check 'don't ask me again" this happens 8 times.

It is possible you need to install an ASPI layer for win XP. But try again. Are you sure your ids are right? IDE does not use an ID.
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Postby DrC on Tue Feb 25, 2003 4:29 pm

Cheers Rich, i am in the process of sorting it right now.......

SCSI Card is ID 7 (default I think)
EMU SCSI is ID 5 (default)
SCSI Termination is On
On the sampler, "Avoid Host on ID" is set to "7 Mac"

It still doesn't work. WaveLab says "Unknown error in sampler interface"
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Postby DrC on Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:10 pm

Tried & tried again, still having problems

WaveLab says "Unknown error in sampler interface"
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Postby KRS-2 on Tue Feb 25, 2003 6:02 pm

I just installed an adaptec 2906 scsi card and am looking for a cable to connect it to my sampler(emu e-synth)

I know out of the card is db 25-pin, and into the emu is 50-pin but I cant seem to find them anywhere, at least at stores around here.

any good websites for cables, I just checked a couple but had no luck. also is this the correct cable?

thanks in advance
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Postby DrC on Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:00 pm

you can but these cables or you can buy an adapter, try www.maplin.co.uk
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Postby Tweak on Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:57 pm

DrC

Check out the ASPI thing, everything else looks good.

there is an article on it at www.chickensys.com
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Postby Tweak on Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:59 pm

krs-2

Mac stores usually stock that cable.
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