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MOTU UltraLite (Review)

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MOTU UltraLite (Review)

Postby _controlfreak on Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:12 pm

MOTU ULTRALITE REVIEW

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Tell us how much you paid for the unit.
$550

How long have you had it?
A year and 4 months

Rate it on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the best.
9

Things you like about it
Well, it works, and with no hassles! Driver installation was a breeze (OS X 10.3.9/10.4.7; PPC & Intel; Windows XP SP2, Intel P4). "Motu doesn't work on PC" is a LIE. As long as you have the right FireWire chipset (Texas Instruments), you will not have any problems. Call MOTU Tech support (617) 576-3066 if you are unsure about yours. I purchased the UltraLite as a replacement for my beloved 2408 (first-generation). I use the analog inputs regularly, and SPDIF once in awhile. I don’t need ADAT, TDIF, SMPTE, Word Clock, etc. - Just analog I/O!

The UltraLite is solidly built, and as its name implies, ultra light. Seriously, it weighs less than a block of cheddar cheese (mmmm). It comes with easy to install rack ears, and although the manual doesn’t recommend it, you can install it “half-rack” (using only the top and bottom left holes), and it holds itself perfectly.

Given the price and features of this unit, the preamps are a great value. They’re slightly better than what you’d get from an M-Audio DMP3 or Studio Projects VTB-8, and definitely better than the onboard preamps on the FireBox or 410. They are clean and quiet, but lacking the definition of the highs that you’d get from a dedicated $500+ preamp.

The A/D D/A is as good as MOTU’s other interfaces (which is quite good). I had been using my computers built-in audio output while waiting for the UltraLite to arrive – I purchased some music, and when I listened to it through the UltraLite, I heard instruments and details that I never knew were there when listening via the built-in soundcard.

The UltraLite is completely bus-powered. And by completely, I mean completely. You can run 48v phantom power on both mic inputs, record on all remaining inputs, monitor on all outputs, drive your headphones, use the CueMix DSP feature, and keep the LCD display backlit (the display is also intelligently designed and readable from several angles) using only the included FireWire cable! MOTU supplies a wall-wart power supply if you wish to use the UltraLite as a standalone mixer.

Speaking of a standalone mixer, the UltraLite lives up to it’s claim that you can route any input to any output for live use. The headphone output is independent of the “main” output; it has its own level control and routing matrix. The interface within the UltraLite itself was clearly laid out, and included all the functions that I’ll ever use in it. However, I won’t be trading in my hardware mixer anytime soon (see the next section).

The MIDI interface feature worked without a hitch in OS X & Windows XP SP2.

I must mention that I was also floored at the quality of the included AudioDesk software! This isn’t some half-baked “lite recording software.” It is Digital Performer, just without the MIDI features! It’s absolutely amazing – you can edit audio just as in-depth as in Digital Performer (the interface looks and feels identical to DP’s as well). You can also use MAS plugins. There is no track limitation, and you can record as many tracks simultaneously as your hardware supports! The fact that this software is included freely with the UltraLite is more than worth the price of admission! NOTE: AudioDesk does not support Virtual Instruments or AU Plugins.

Things you don't like about it.
Using the UltraLite as a standalone mixer is sort of a pain. It’s definitely doable, but if you already have a hardware mixer, don’t get rid of it. Routing is much easier to do within your host program or using the CueMix software than trying to do it with 2 knobs (each knob on the UltraLite can also be pushed like a button).

I also have minor quibbles with the CueMix DSP Console software itself, as it’s hard to tell which setting the UltraLite is actually using: what you see on your computer screen, or what you see on the UltraLite display. For example, I increased the “Trim” on a preamp via the CueMix software, but the UltraLite’s display still said the “Trim” was all the way down. When I manually turned the trim knob, the UltraLite’s setting instantly reverted to what I was physically twisting with my hand (and not the mouse). Conversely, when manually adjusting parameters on the UltraLite itself, the adjustments were visible on the LCD display, but not the CueMix console.

Another thing that will take some getting used to is the fact that all the controls are digital. Although the knobs are detented at a fairly high resolution, they are detented. This means if something is way too loud, you can just turn the knob down to “off,” you have to twist it continuously (like a jog wheel), and hope it goes down quickly enough. Having said that, the knobs are responsive and accurate, one “tick” of the knob equals one “unit” of adjustment (which is visible on the display).

Anything else you wish to add?
I bought this interface over similar ones from M-Audio and PreSonus because I’m a huge MOTU fanboy. I didn’t want to buy an interface that I’d outgrow in a couple years. I also didn’t want to have to hassle with half-baked drivers and support (and come on… those M-Audio interfaces are built like toys!).

Another reason I purchased the Ultralite was because of MOTU’s product longevity. My 2408 (first generation, not mkII or 3) lasted over ten years! The digital I/O on it were still perfectly functional, too. Now think about that: in 6 years, MOTU offered flawless support for Mac OS 8, 9, X (10.1,2, and 3!). MOTU is committed to their products no matter when you bought them. The MOTU products that I have purchased were investments that definitely paid off in the long run. I like the UltraLite so much that I am ordering a 2nd to round out my 16 i/o studio setup.

You can buy “similar” interfaces for less cash, but the difference is astounding: the UltraLite kills the FireBox, 410, and 1814. I assume it would also trump the Edirol interfaces, but I was not able to test them.

Quality D/A, rugged construction, nice preamps, hassle-free drivers, bus power, and AWESOME DAW software make the UltraLite an incredible deal. If you’ve been looking for an awesome compact yet powerful FireWire interface, buy yours today. Yes I would buy this again if it were stolen from me – I’m buying it again even though it wasn’t!

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Postby Tweak on Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:03 pm

Nice review. Thanks! Hope you don't mind I added a pic.
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Postby HCM on Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:04 am

thx!
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Postby Tweak on Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:11 am

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Postby _controlfreak on Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:40 am

Edit: My MOTU 2408 lasted 10 years, not just 6.
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Postby owel on Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:07 pm

Great Review.

The ultralite looks like a squished down 828 (with the 2nd xlr removed, some knobs removed, and the VU metering taken out.)

I wouldn't be surprised if it has the same 828 guts in it.
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Postby _controlfreak on Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:10 pm

Owel, the UltraLite has 2 XLR's; one is on the front, the other is on the rear. It's missing a lot of the sync/digital stuff that the 828 has.
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Postby owel on Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:44 pm

>the UltraLite has 2 XLR's; one is on the front, the other is on the rear.

Ahhh, you're right. I missed the XLR at the back.
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Postby Murahachibu on Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:09 am

Hey, what's the power supply voltage. Is it one of those universal 100-220V deals or is it set for US power? I'm considering the possibility of buying one off the net and then having one of my relatives mail it to me here in Japan. It's a shame no music shops will ship overseas these days. It's probably to protect the price gauging that's going on overseas. 2 times the cost over here. I just emailed MOTU's subsidiary and asked them why it's priced so high.
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Postby _controlfreak on Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:36 am

All the power needed is supplied via the FireWire cable.

However, if you won't be using FireWire, you can operate it standalone with the 9V DC Wall-wart.
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Postby Murahachibu on Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:43 pm

I guess I don't understand the 9V power cable. The cable plugs into a wall socket, right? If so, does it say what voltage it accepts. The US is something like 110 or 120 I believe, and Japan in 100V.

In terms of powering it from the firewire bus. I think the new Macs only have 4 pin firewire and it takes a 6 pin to run power from the computer from what I understand, so I'm thinking I'll need to use the cable.

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Postby _controlfreak on Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:50 pm

Murahachibu wrote:I guess I don't understand the 9V power cable.


It's not like IEC power connectors - it's a DC small-ring plug. The 110V occurs in the transformer box (it's a wall wart). It would be very easy (I would think) to get a Japanese voltage converter that plugs into your wall socket, and is 9V DC on the other.
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Postby destructive cactus on Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:18 pm

I am lusting after this interface! Great review, thanks!

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Postby DylanG on Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:38 pm

Great review; time for me to start saving...
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Postby _controlfreak on Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:06 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen...

Behold the DualtraLite:

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16-Ins, 16-Outs of Daisy-chained, Bus-powered bliss.
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Postby redheadbass on Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:38 pm

How would that compare to a single Traveler, in your opinion?
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Postby _controlfreak on Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:09 pm

The Traveler and UltraLite both have 8 analog inputs/outputs each. The Traveler has 4 preamps, the UL has 2. The traveler has a lot more options when it comes to digital i/o.

I actually won't be using both UL's all the time; only when I need more than 8 simultaneous ins/outs (and that's usually a performance, I rarely record more than 8 analog channels at once at home). When the second UL isn't in use by me, it will be my little brother's interface (I'm so nice). That way he can do whatever he wants without spending all day and night playing with my toys. :twisted:
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Postby owel on Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:55 pm

You really love this thing, huh! Cool. :)

I think the Ultralite and the new MacBook 17" is a killer combo!

Of course, you still have ADAT available on those units so you can still buy (2) 8 mic preamp with ADAT output, and hook it up to your Ultralites, and now you have 32 input channels.

And MOTU still allows you to connect 2 more Ultralite on the same firewire chain.

So you can have 64 input channels total (4 Ultralites, + 4 8x mic pre/adat out).
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Postby _controlfreak on Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:58 pm

Yeah, MOTU quality is amazing; they don't make crap: I can daisy-chain using only bus power! Suck on that, PreSonus and M-Audio! :lol:
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Postby jonnyc on Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:15 pm

So you say the program that comes with it does only audio? Does it have a track limit or simaltaneous track record limit? I've very interested in switching from ptle.
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Postby _controlfreak on Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:33 pm

There is no track limitation. You can record as many channels simultaneously as your hadware supports.

Here's the catch with Audiodesk:

You Cannot Use AudioUnit Plugins With AudioDesk.

MOTU says that this is not a "limitation" and that they "plan" to incorporate AU support into future versions of AudioDesk. I will edit my review; my Waves plugins showed up in AudioDesk, but that is because they were in fact installed as MAS plugins.

AudioDesk also does not support Virtual Instruments.
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Postby baanes on Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:21 pm

question about the ultralite's preamps:

what is the maximum amount of gain from the preamps? MOTU makes it sound like it is only +24 db, which isn't really enough for far-micing or other situations. If it does go higher how exactly is the amount controlled, if only 24db are adjustable?
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Postby _controlfreak on Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:13 pm

Baanes, the maximum amount of gain you can get out of the UL's preamps is 60db. How does that work if only 24db are adjustable? Hopefully this can explain:

PAD SWITCH: DOWN (-36db)
MIN GAIN: 0db
MAX GAIN: 24db

PAD SWITCH: FLAT (-18db)
MIN GAIN: 18db
MAX GAIN: 42db

PAD SWITCH: UP (+/- 0db)
MIN GAIN: 36db
MAX GAIN: 60db

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So you see, it all revolves around the "PAD" switch: there are 3 gain stages, and you can add +24db in each one using the trim knob. With the PAD off and the TRIM knob at 0, I still am getting +36db of gain. With the TRIM knob maxed, I am getting +60db of gain.

Don't ask me why MOTU did it this way, but I kind of like it! I mainly pad things on the mic rather than the preamp; so I almost always need 40db or more of gain.
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Postby owel on Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:46 pm

NOTE: If you have AudioDesk, you can upgrade to the full pledged DP at a cheap price!

AudioDesk is just meant as a teaser for DP. It kinda looks like DP in fact.
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Postby Murahachibu on Wed May 03, 2006 9:30 pm

Is there a manual for the ultralite available online? I couldn't find one.

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