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what are you RE20 guys using for a mic pre??

Postby vegas on Tue May 09, 2006 7:35 am

my setup is for voicing and im stuck between the:

True Systems P-Solo Microphone Preamp

http://www.zzounds.com/a--3745/item--TRSPSOLO

FMR RNP "Really Nice Preamp"

http://www.fmraudio.com/RNP8380.htm


Grace Designs Model 101

http://www.gracedesign.com/products/101/model101.htm


i've been looking and reading, but im wondering who has any experience with these and a RE20.

TIA
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Postby Blue Bear Sound on Tue May 09, 2006 9:05 am

Great River, or Phoenix is what it mostly gets used with over here, but I've also used it with a Presonus VXP... (same pre as the MP20)
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Postby vegas on Tue May 09, 2006 9:32 am

thank you sir...ill go do some reading.
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Postby RUJU on Tue May 09, 2006 7:12 pm

ey vegas... you got an re 20?... if you do, how are u liking it so far.....?

i might buy myself one... i've heard nothing but great replies about it so far...
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Postby Tweak on Tue May 09, 2006 11:43 pm

The RE20 works fine with my RNP. Have not tried it with anything else yet. I find the 54 and 60 db settings good for me.
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Postby vegas on Wed May 10, 2006 7:42 am

RUJU wrote:ey vegas... you got an re 20?... if you do, how are u liking it so far.....?

i might buy myself one... i've heard nothing but great replies about it so far...


i've used the re20 at most of the radio stations ive worked at and liked them, but considering the difference in equipment and budget i like it so far at home.

i just bought the PreSonus Eureka yesterday and from the little i got to test it out i like my setup even more now!

you cant go wrong with the re20.
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Postby vegas on Wed May 10, 2006 7:54 am

Tweak wrote:The RE20 works fine with my RNP. Have not tried it with anything else yet. I find the 54 and 60 db settings good for me.


i would have liked to demo one but i didnt want to buy it online to do so.

i was thinking about buying all 3 and see which one i want, but thats too much drama for me.

guitar center only had the eureka so i went with it...so far i likey.
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Postby jackson99 on Wed May 10, 2006 5:15 pm

vegas wrote:
Tweak wrote:The RE20 works fine with my RNP. Have not tried it with anything else yet. I find the 54 and 60 db settings good for me.


i would have liked to demo one but i didnt want to buy it online to do so.

i was thinking about buying all 3 and see which one i want, but thats too much drama for me.

guitar center only had the eureka so i went with it...so far i likey.


Hi vegas. I too am thinking of getting a setup for voice work from home and have an RE20 at the moment.

Is the signal you get out of the eureka high enough to rec it at close to -3 dB without having to use tons of DSP filters?

Also, I'm not much of a tech, what does the sliding switch on the RE20 that's close to the XLR connector actually do? There are two positions: one is sort of parallel to the ground and the other one is slanted. Do you know what they do?

And last but not least, what soundcard do you use to connect all this equipment to the PC?

Look forward to reading your replies.
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Postby eargazimm on Thu May 11, 2006 3:34 am

I use the UA 6176 with the re 20 and have good results. Some days I love it, but the best thing to do is to try it out. At work the re 20 can take all of the abuse you can dish out. Mind you sometimes you need to shout to get you point across to a caller an this mic will take it. All in all this is a great all around mic. From recording vocals, instuments to dog farts(not with the same mic), this mic will do it. I didnt really think that so many people were using the re 20 at thier studios.
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Postby vegas on Thu May 11, 2006 9:30 am

jackson99 wrote:Hi vegas. I too am thinking of getting a setup for voice work from home and have an RE20 at the moment.

Is the signal you get out of the eureka high enough to rec it at close to -3 dB without having to use tons of DSP filters?

Also, I'm not much of a tech, what does the sliding switch on the RE20 that's close to the XLR connector actually do? There are two positions: one is sort of parallel to the ground and the other one is slanted. Do you know what they do?

And last but not least, what soundcard do you use to connect all this equipment to the PC?

Look forward to reading your replies.
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hello,

NO get out...DONT DO VOICE WORK!! :lol:
there's already too much competition.

sorry i dont know what you mean by DSP filters...im a newb :oops:

the eureka has made a big difference. im very glad i got it. i was cleaning the house yesterday so i didnt get to mess around with it, but the couple of hours i tested it out when i got it on tuesday proved to be worth the money.

originally i bought an Echo Indigo IO for my laptop, but after like two weeks of trouble shooting we (echo tech support) decided that for who knows why my laptop isnt compatable. so, i bought the Presonus Firebox which i should have done in the first place, but like i said im a newb to the whole home studio.

the Firebox's mic pres are weak with the re20, but problem solved with the Eureka. i set the impedance to 1500 (i believe) and it gave me the boost the re20 needed. i get GREAT levels/dbs...? im used to radio.

The switch near the bottom of the re20 from the paper work i have: "when the filter switch is in the 'on' position, low-frequency response shall tilt down 4.5dB from 400-100 Hz. With the switch in 'off' position, microphone shall be essentially 'flat' from 80-6000 Hz, with a broad 2.5 dB rise in response from 6000-14,000 Hz, and nominally down 3 dB at 18,000 Hz."
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Postby jackson99 on Thu May 11, 2006 8:46 pm

hello,

NO get out...DONT DO VOICE WORK!! :lol:
there's already too much competition.

sorry i dont know what you mean by DSP filters...im a newb :oops:

the eureka has made a big difference. im very glad i got it. i was cleaning the house yesterday so i didnt get to mess around with it, but the couple of hours i tested it out when i got it on tuesday proved to be worth the money.

originally i bought an Echo Indigo IO for my laptop, but after like two weeks of trouble shooting we (echo tech support) decided that for who knows why my laptop isnt compatable. so, i bought the Presonus Firebox which i should have done in the first place, but like i said im a newb to the whole home studio.

the Firebox's mic pres are weak with the re20, but problem solved with the Eureka. i set the impedance to 1500 (i believe) and it gave me the boost the re20 needed. i get GREAT levels/dbs...? im used to radio.

The switch near the bottom of the re20 from the paper work i have: "when the filter switch is in the 'on' position, low-frequency response shall tilt down 4.5dB from 400-100 Hz. With the switch in 'off' position, microphone shall be essentially 'flat' from 80-6000 Hz, with a broad 2.5 dB rise in response from 6000-14,000 Hz, and nominally down 3 dB at 18,000 Hz."


lol yeah there is quite a bit of competition but the more the merrier, right :)

by dsp filters i mean recording the source at low levels and then using effects to up the quality either after the recording via cool edit or whatever or during, if your soundcard provides you with the option to do so.

here's another question for you... how do you link up the eureka to the firebox then? via xlr cable and to the mic in???

whaaa thanks for the switch explanation but i have no idea what that all means :) does anyone know about this please? :) *HELP*
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Postby vegas on Fri May 12, 2006 7:27 am

jackson99 wrote:by dsp filters i mean recording the source at low levels and then using effects to up the quality either after the recording via cool edit or whatever or during, if your soundcard provides you with the option to do so.

here's another question for you... how do you link up the eureka to the firebox then? via xlr cable and to the mic in???

whaaa thanks for the switch explanation but i have no idea what that all means :) does anyone know about this please? :) *HELP*


thanks for the dsp explanation...basically amplifing low levels.

i run the mic into the eureka's mic input using xlr then the eureka xlr out to the firebox mic in. i took pics, ill post em later today.

about the switch:

when its on and sounds are in the 400-100 Hz range they will drop by 4.5dBs. and with the switch off the other sounds in the different ranges will rise or stay the same depending on the Hz.

make more sense?
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Postby jackson99 on Fri May 12, 2006 4:47 pm

vegas wrote:
thanks for the dsp explanation...basically amplifing low levels.

i run the mic into the eureka's mic input using xlr then the eureka xlr out to the firebox mic in. i took pics, ill post em later today.

about the switch:

when its on and sounds are in the 400-100 Hz range they will drop by 4.5dBs. and with the switch off the other sounds in the different ranges will rise or stay the same depending on the Hz.

make more sense?


DSP = Digital Sound Processing really to be precise (unless it's Digital Signal Processing)... :)

Would love to see some pics of your setup. I've been reading up on the specs of the Eureka and it sure is looking good... I think I just might go for it... Lots of knobs, yes, but for voice-over, they are necessary IMHO.

Something I've been wondering about though is if I'd be better off getting the A/D converter add-on so that I could use the AES/EBU or S/PDIF out and stick that directly into my soundcard... Did you buy the add-on?

Ok, so essentially in one position you might be able to cut out, low sounds like the odd pen dropping or squeak of the chair whereas in the other, every tiny wee bit of sound goes through right? Now which is which again? :) One is like this - and the other like this /

good stuff
speak to you soon
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Postby vegas on Sat May 13, 2006 4:59 pm

jackson99 wrote:DSP = Digital Sound Processing really to be precise (unless it's Digital Signal Processing)... :)

Would love to see some pics of your setup. I've been reading up on the specs of the Eureka and it sure is looking good... I think I just might go for it... Lots of knobs, yes, but for voice-over, they are necessary IMHO.

Something I've been wondering about though is if I'd be better off getting the A/D converter add-on so that I could use the AES/EBU or S/PDIF out and stick that directly into my soundcard... Did you buy the add-on?

Ok, so essentially in one position you might be able to cut out, low sounds like the odd pen dropping or squeak of the chair whereas in the other, every tiny wee bit of sound goes through right? Now which is which again? :) One is like this - and the other like this /

good stuff
speak to you soon


i took pics, ill go post them in the pics section.

my firebox has s/pdif...so i didnt get the optional stuff for the eureka.

i believe the / is the on position.

and from my understanding you are almost right on...it wont completely cut out the background noise but it will drop their volume.

and as far as the knobs, i think once i get used to it, it will be great to have the many different options. i feel its a great mic pre for voicing based on that alone. my 2 yr old sounds great through my setup too!
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Postby jackson99 on Sun May 14, 2006 12:34 pm

vegas wrote:
i took pics, ill go post them in the pics section.

my firebox has s/pdif...so i didnt get the optional stuff for the eureka.

i believe the / is the on position.

and from my understanding you are almost right on...it wont completely cut out the background noise but it will drop their volume.

and as far as the knobs, i think once i get used to it, it will be great to have the many different options. i feel its a great mic pre for voicing based on that alone. my 2 yr old sounds great through my setup too!


Umm this is going to sound really newbish, but where is the pics section? :) I can't find it... DOH... could you send a link?

Yeah guess that's what the whole 6-14Hz thing or whatever means... It would be good to know which sounds are the ones that are trimmed when the position is ON as opposed to OFF...

yeah i checked the eureka out and the amount of variations you seem to be able to apply on the HI MID and LOs really looks good... once you know what is better for what application you're laughing... hey vegas think you could send me an audio sample... maybe read me a liner or a short ad or something so I could actually hear the eureka in action??? might be a lot to ask for, but hey.... :)

later guys
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Postby vegas on Mon May 15, 2006 9:04 am

jackson99 wrote:Umm this is going to sound really newbish, but where is the pics section? :) I can't find it... DOH... could you send a link?

Yeah guess that's what the whole 6-14Hz thing or whatever means... It would be good to know which sounds are the ones that are trimmed when the position is ON as opposed to OFF...

yeah i checked the eureka out and the amount of variations you seem to be able to apply on the HI MID and LOs really looks good... once you know what is better for what application you're laughing... hey vegas think you could send me an audio sample... maybe read me a liner or a short ad or something so I could actually hear the eureka in action??? might be a lot to ask for, but hey.... :)

later guys
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http://studio-central.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=33952

and when i get home ill see about sending you some audio...whats your email?
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Postby jackson99 on Mon May 15, 2006 11:59 am

vegas wrote:http://studio-central.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=33952

and when i get home ill see about sending you some audio...whats your email?


Hey...

Nice setup man! I wish I had the dedication to put up the foam and all that like you :)

Fire away some audio files at kythen@yahoo.com so I can hear the big bad Eureka in action :)

Thanks vegas
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Postby vegas on Mon May 15, 2006 12:53 pm

jackson99 wrote:Hey...

Nice setup man! I wish I had the dedication to put up the foam and all that like you :)

Fire away some audio files at kythen@yahoo.com so I can hear the big bad Eureka in action :)

Thanks vegas


thanks.
im just glad my wife was cool with it because the office/studio was her marilyn monroe room. but she knows voicing has been my goal ever since i got into radio.


yea its a moddest setup but as you know with voicing you dont need a whole lot of equipment. :lol:
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Postby RUJU on Mon May 15, 2006 2:45 pm

man...... i just got back from my local music store and i asked how much they sell the RE 20 for.. he types it up on the computer.. and what do i see..

565 dollars!!!!! [deleted] canada!!!! the rode nt1-a cost $285.. wow...
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Postby vegas on Mon May 15, 2006 8:30 pm

RUJU wrote:man...... i just got back from my local music store and i asked how much they sell the RE 20 for.. he types it up on the computer.. and what do i see..

565 dollars!!!!! [deleted] canada!!!! the rode nt1-a cost $285.. wow...



so what if you bought online from the US?
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Postby RUJU on Mon May 15, 2006 9:26 pm

yeah, thats what i might end up doing.... from that musicans friend site.. they ship to canada...
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Postby jackson99 on Mon May 15, 2006 11:01 pm

vegas wrote:
thanks.
im just glad my wife was cool with it because the office/studio was her marilyn monroe room. but she knows voicing has been my goal ever since i got into radio.


yea its a moddest setup but as you know with voicing you dont need a whole lot of equipment. :lol:


Got the file man thanks for that! Sounds pretty smooth I'd say! I'll tell you what it's neat to hear an RE20 pour into a PC like that... I was still considering other options before hearing that bit, but now, I think I just might have to pick up a Eureka =)

Of course then the problem of this noisy fan of mine on my desktop will pose itself once again...grrrr..

Hey your kid sounded real cool too! Thanks for taking the time and sending it over... I'll do the same once I'm set up properly (could take a while lol)

Yeah, you don't need that much equipment to do the whole voice thing, what you do need is stamina and willpower to keep on trucking and never give up :)

later guys
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Postby vegas on Tue May 16, 2006 7:23 am

jackson99 wrote:Got the file man thanks for that! Sounds pretty smooth I'd say! I'll tell you what it's neat to hear an RE20 pour into a PC like that... I was still considering other options before hearing that bit, but now, I think I just might have to pick up a Eureka =)

Of course then the problem of this noisy fan of mine on my desktop will pose itself once again...grrrr..

Hey your kid sounded real cool too! Thanks for taking the time and sending it over... I'll do the same once I'm set up properly (could take a while lol)


glad you got it. that was a pretty rough production piece so if you like that then it only gets better.

i had the Shure KSM27 at first, but im glad i switched to the re20.

as far as your noisy fan you should be able to filter it out with the eureka, the switch on the re20, or in your software. lots of possibilities.

yea send me some of your sheet when you get it going.
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Postby jackson99 on Tue May 16, 2006 2:36 pm

vegas wrote:
glad you got it. that was a pretty rough production piece so if you like that then it only gets better.

i had the Shure KSM27 at first, but im glad i switched to the re20.

as far as your noisy fan you should be able to filter it out with the eureka, the switch on the re20, or in your software. lots of possibilities.

yea send me some of your sheet when you get it going.


that was spot on. speaking of which, how did you do that stereo effect with cool edit? it's on the "here's a little audio" and it sounds like it's punched through both channels... it's the second "here's a little audio" effect... :)

yeah i'm sure there are ways of killing the fan noises... in terms of killing it with cool edit, how would i do that?

aye, i'll let you know as soon as i get my eureka...

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Postby _controlfreak on Tue May 16, 2006 2:42 pm

It's probably double-tracked stereo spreading (I haven't heard it, though). :lol:
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